Remember, the first of Fenton's various rooster moulds were not put into production until long
after Fenton began marking wares with logos embedded into the glass!

Therefor, all first quality Fenton roosters should be marked with one of Fenton's embedded logos.
Some roosters, such as those made by Fenton Designers Jon Saffel and Suzi Whitaker, are marked
with the same logos used on Fenton's Hen on Nest dishes.

This logo, with the entire name "Fenton" spelled out in an Oval  is reserved for Fenton wares
produced from moulds which originated with Fenton.  Fenton Roosters and other Fenton wares
produced from moulds which did not originate with Fenton, such as their large standing rooster,
formerly Paden City's, their large and small rooster boxes which were made from moulds
purchased at the going out of business sales of 2 former competitors, and the beautiful but
problematic Chanticleer, formerly a Fosteria mould, are all marked with a Script F in an Oval,
denoting these items did not originate with Fenton.

Each logo shown above can be found on a Fenton Rooster of one mould or another, and ALL
roosters also have Decade Indicators.   Yet, only the spelled out "Fenton" logos as shown above on
the right, can be found on Fenton hen on nest moulds and the roosters made from moulds created
by Fenton's Designers.




    The new Fenton logo shown left is from a Chameleon Green Hen
    Egg Plate, # 5188 XE and was put into use in 2008, after Fenton
    restructured the Fenton company to include wares that were not
    only made in the USA, as they had been for 102 years.  This newest
    embedded Fenton logo clearly shows that the items it was used on
    were made in the USA. Fenton Hen and Rooster collectors rejoiced
    over this!
In 1968 Fenton next debuted their 5 inch Hen on Nest, ware #5186. This compact
beauty was destined to become a long-term favorite. Fenton's 5" hen on nest
featured a very detailed hen top, similar in style to other brands in that size
range, but with visible differences in and under the tail area, and other places.
The 5" Fenton hen top sits on a beautiful uniquely styled base featuring 10
distinctive triple outlined arches, which form the sides, rising from bottom to
top, where broad petals form along the upper rim of the base. Fenton lays claim
to the from the Butler Bros dating back to the late 1880s depict a hen on nest
that appears to be Fenton's #5186. This hen on nest has been made in many
colors and decorative treatments, and remains very popular among today's
collectors.
In 1967, after nearly a decade without an inline Hen on Nest, Fenton unveiled a
revised version of their large 8" hen on nest, assigned ware #5182, which does
seem out of order since the previous hen on nest was assigned #5183. Fenton's
new 8" hen on nest featured the familiar hen top used as the #5183 & #5188 hen
top, on a revised, Vallerysthal style, basket woven base with a double twisted
loop "braided" scalloped rim. The ware # 5182 Hen on Nest is still in production
today.  
About two years after the Fenton Chicken Server was introduced, the hen top
from it was used over a Challinor
style, smooth rimmed base, for the release of
the #5183 Fenton Hen on Nest.  The #5183 hen on the
smooth rimmed nest had a
fairly short life span, which began in 1953, and ended early in 1958, when the
#5183 mould was retired, coinciding with the retirement of the original Chicken
Server. None of these hens are marked with embedded logos.  (photo far right)
Ware #5188 YM, Milk Glass body with Amethyst
Head, Chicken Server, YOP: 1953, 1954, retired in
this color, 1955. (rare) Hen top is a copy of the 8"
Atterbury hen top later used on the smooth rimmed
base. Fenton Chicken Server produced: 1952-1958.
In 1995 Fenton's release of their Chicken Server Hen, with the new name of the
Fenton Hen Egg Plate was done in Mother of Pearl which was decorated with a
hand painted pastel floral design. This Hen Egg Plate features Fenton's 8"  hen
top, as does the Chicken Server of the 1950s, the Hen on smooth rim Nest of the
1950s, and the Hen on the scallop rimmed Nest, that were introduced in 1967 and
have yet to be retired. (01.04.08)  


This Hen Egg Plate, Ware # 5188 YZ was issued as a Limited Edition of 950 pieces
total, with each piece signed and numbered, and accompanied by a Fenton tent
card.  Another Limited Edition of 950 signed and numbered Hand Painted Hen Egg
Plates, done in an Iridized Milk Glass and decorated with the English Daisy pattern
was produced a couple years later in 1997.



The Fenton Hen Egg Plate has also been special ordered by Martha Stewart in
other colors, and by Rosso in Topaz Opalescent (Vaseline) and most recently in
the early summer of 2008, in Chameleon Green.
Ware #5188 Hen Egg Plate, 1995--present day. (02.03.09)
The variety of Fenton's permanent embedded logos, including those used to mark seconds, or inferior
wares deemed not to be of First Quality, and the meaning for the use of each type of logo, can offer
valuable information to collectors and evidence as to the identity and authenticity of a "Fenton" hen on
nest in question.  But, what these embedded markings can offer doesn't end there.

Fenton claims their hen on nest forms as their own, and because of that the logo embedded on the
Fenton hen on nest dishes made since 1972, when Fenton's items began to be marked with their
embedded logo, should be marked with variations of the Fenton logo reserved for wares who's moulds
originated with Fenton. To the right are logos used by Fenton for their wares, such as their hen on nest
dishes, and also for their Roosters designed by Fenton's talented Designers, Jon Saffel and Suzi Whitaker.
Moulds claimed by Fenton as their own are marked with the logo which spells the Fenton name out, in
an oval. See the samples of these logos to right, with more about Fenton's logos and, their Decade
Indicators discussed and shown in the section below.

The column to the left shows 2 Fenton logos, (the top logo is shown as a sketch, and below from a photo
of the Chocolate Rooster Box.) The top Fenton logo, the "Script F in an Oval" would not be found on any
Fenton hen on nest form. Although there are roosters that are marked with the logo used for Fenton's
hen on nest moulds. At the top of this column is the "Script F in an Oval" logo, which is also shown in the
photo below as it appears on Fenton's 8" Chocolate Rooster Box, #4680 CK, with a small number 0 also
embedded with the logo, which is discussed in detail below. This logo is used for Fenton items produced
from moulds that did not originate with Fenton, such as the moulds used to produce Fenton's 2 sizes of
Rooster Boxes, their large standing rooster, and of course, the Chanticleer. The moulds for each of these
Roosters were bought from former competitors, and each should be marked with the "Script F in the
Oval" logo. The logo shown on the bottom of the far left column, the "Fancy F in the Circle" is used by
Fenton to mark items made by them for other companies to market through their own companies as
Fenton.

For example, determining correct colors can be especially problematic when shopping for Fenton Art
Glass hens and roosters online. Getting the color correct is essential for collectors since Fenton used
very similar colors with fairly subtle changes for their hen on nest dishes, rooster boxes and standing
roosters over the years.  Adding to that, is the fact that colors usually vary in appearance from PC to PC.
With the decks seemingly impossibly stacked as far as knowing which color is which, what does a tiny
number embedded with the logo have to do with the determining the actual color of a Fenton hen on
nest? Plenty! Decade Indicators can be used to help collectors pin down the exact color, which is a relief
to any collector who's ever purchased duplicate hens by error, thinking the color was other than it
appeared.
Above and below are images of the first logo Fenton used, shown here on
their base of their 5" hen on nest, ware # 5186 CN, in Carnival. The Carnival
5" Fenton hen on nest was produced from 1971 through 1973. Therefor, this
logo has no "Decade Indicator" since Fenton did not begin embedding those
tiny, albeit very helpful, numbers until the early 1980s.
In 1980 Fenton began embedding a tiny number 8 with their logos. This number, which was put
in the mould and thus permanently embedded into the glass with the logo was used to identify
Fenton wares
are excepted as having been manufactured in the 1970's.  In 1990 the number was
changed to a 9 and used to identify Fenton wares of the 1990s decade. It was changed to a 0 for
wares produced after 1999, and for 2011 the number will again be changed, this time to the
number 1, which Fenton chose to represent the decade beginning in 2011.
This wonderful,
scarcely noticeable number, which we refer to as a Decade Indicator, can be a very useful tool
for collectors. What this often missed number looks like, and where it can be found is shown in
the photos to the right.

The "Decade Indicators" and Fenton logos
shown to the right are all from various Fenton 5" hen on
nest dishes #5186, with them located in the center of the underside of the base's, or nest's
bottom.
Some Fenton Hen on Nest dishes have hen tops which are also marked, however a hen
on nest with a marked top and bottom is not necessarily worth more than those with their bases
only marked affects its fair market value.  The Logos and Decade Indicators are the same on
Fenton's large 8" hen on nest bases, although the underside of those bases varies in appearance
from those underside of the base used with Fenton's 5" hen top.

Although all Fenton roosters are marked, they are not all marked with the same type of logo.
Fenton's "home-grown" roosters for each decade with an assigned number.  

The Decade Indicator determines at a glance (well, make that at a glance in good, strong light
with the possible assistance of a magnifying glass!) during which decade a Fenton ware was
made.  

This easy to recall Decade Indicator breaks down easily with no complicated codes to remember.
  • A logo with no number denotes an item made during the 1970s,
  • A logo with the number 8 means the item was made during the 1980s,
  • a 9 denotes the item was made during the 1990s,
  • the 0 is used for items made after 1999.

The newest Fenton logos being used on Fenton's hen on nest dishes was put into use in 2008,
and includes the words "Fenton USA." (03.9.09)
To the right are images of the underside of the bases of Fenton's Cobalt 5" hen on Nest, # 5186 KN,
made in 1999 and therefor marked with the number 9 Decade Indicator.  Fenton's 5" Dusty Rose
Hen on Nest,  ware # 5186 CP, was produced 1984, 1985 and 1986 and in keeping with what
Decade Indicators offer is marked with an 8 for its Decade Indicator and the base from #C 5186 C9,
the base from the Ivory Satin HP Hen On A Ruby Nest, special ordered for QVC, who debuted this
Fenton hen on April, 2004, and is marked with the 0 Decade Indicator used for Fenton wares made
after 1999.
Above: Embedded Logo from the 1970s, No Decade
Indicator. Base of #5186 CN, Carnival 5" Hen on Nest.
Above: Embedded Logo from the 1990s, with the
Decade Indicator of 9. Base of #5186 KN, Cobalt 5"
Hen on Nest, YOP 1999.
Above: Embedded Logo from after 1999. Decade
Indicator of 0. Base of #C 5186 C9, from the Ivory
Satin HP 5" Hen on a Ruby Nest, special ordered
for QVC, April 2004.
Above: Embedded Logo from the 1980s, Note
the Decade Indicator of 8. Base of #5186 CP,
Dusty Rose 5" Hen on Nest, YOP 1984, 1985,
1986.
Left: The New embedded logo Fenton put into use in
2008, after their Corporate restructuring resulted in an
announcement that Fenton would outsource some wares
for production outside of the USA.
Fortunately, their hens and roosters are still being made
in the USA. So far. The logo shown is from the 2008
Fenton Chameleon Hen Egg Plate, ware # 5188 XE, which
Rosso Glass special ordered in Limited Numbers.

NOTE: The "0" Decade Indicator, and the new letters USA
that were added to the embedded logo of this Hen Egg
Plate.
The single digits, or Decade Indicators, that Fenton began embedding with their logos in the early
1980s, can be very helpful for determining during which decade an item was made, although
deciphering which number is which can be difficult without the use of strong light and possibly a
magnifying glass. These Decade Indicators are very helpful to collectors, since many Fenton colors
are similar and difficult to determine from photos. Knowing when a piece was made can help
narrow down the actual color possibilities, since if a piece is marked as having been made in the
1990s, then only the colors made during that decade need to be considered as the potential color
for the hen in question.
Fenton entered the covered hen on nest market relatively late,  in 1952 with the
debut of their first hen on nest, in the form of their massive Chicken Server, ware
#5188.  A copy of the hefty 8 inch Atterbury hen was used for the hen top,
which Fenton nested on a suitably sized, 12" long platter made with depressions
for deviled eggs placed all around it. The slotted eyes of the Atterbury Hen were
replaced with big, round eyes, that are void of detail, and have since become a
renowned identifying factor for Fenton's large hens on nests. Not marked. (photo
to immediate left)
A Time-line of Fenton (USA) Hen on Nest Forms
Chicken Server
Ware #5188
Inline debut:1952- Retired1958
8" Hen on (smooth rim) Nest Ware
#5183
Debut:1952- Retired 1958
8" Hen on (scallop rim) Nest Ware #5183
Debut:1967-Still in production.
5" Hen on (arched) Nest
Ware #5186
1967*-Still in production
Hen Egg Plate
Ware #5188
Renamed former Chicken Server
YOP:1995-Still in production
More about the Queens of the Fenton Curio Coop
Ware #5183 -- Not inline.
8" Ruby Headed Milk Glass Hen on a
(Smooth
rimmed Challinor style)
Nest. (Rare)
8" Hen on Smooth rimmed base, Ware #5183
produced 1953-1958.
 
Shown: Ware #5188 YZ, Mother of Pearl Hen Egg
Plate, Hand Painted, Ltd. Ed. of 950 pieces, 1995.

Fenton's Chicken Server, retired in 1958, was re-issued
in 1995 as the Fenton Hen Egg Plate. Over the years
other Hen Egg Plates were produced, including another
decorated LE issue. Beautiful colors were special
ordered by other companies such as Rosso, most
recently had this dish done in Fenton's hit of 2008,
Chameleon Green and Martha Stewart's Martha by Mail.
1995--present day.  (09.03.08)
Shown: Ware # 5182 MI, 8" Milk Glass Hen on
scallop rim Nest, YOP: 1967-72.
After a decade
without an inline hen on nest, in 1967 Fenton
debuted their revised 8" Hen on Nest.  A familiar 8"
hen top with bulging eyes was used on a Vallerysthal
style, scallop rimmed basket-woven base.
1967-present day.
Shown: Ware #5183 MY, Amethyst with Milk Glass
Head and smooth rimmed Nest, YOP: 1953.
Fenton
next used their 8" hen top on the Challinor style,
smooth rimmed, basket woven base, ware #5183.
Produced from 1953 to its retirement early in 1958.
Chick on Nest
Ware #5185
YOP:1953- still in production
Shown right: Ware #5185 YM Chick on Nest, Amethyst Chick on
Milk Glass Nest, YOP: 1953 & 1954
Fenton's 5" Chick On Nest's debut coincided with that of their
Chicken Server. Early colors of Chick On Nest #5185, Chicken
Server #5188, & Hen on Nest #5183 were often offered in
matching colors & combinations, many which have never been
reproduced. To date Fenton's Chick on Nest has been made inline
in 7 colors, including 2 ordered by Martha Stewart's Martha by
Mail in Mint Green and Shell Pink, the 2 glass colors of the Hen
Egg Plates also ordered by Martha by Mail. 10.11.08
In August, 2007, Fenton stunned the North American art glass community when it was announced that the doors to Fenton Art Glass were to be permanently closed, after over 100 years of success as
a family business.  Although the Fenton Art Glass Company fought rising costs for producing art glass in the USA for longer than many experts thought possible, with Fenton continuing to produce and
sell their wares until 2011,  eventually Fenton did out-source some wares for production to be done overseas.  

Many believe this was one of the many reasons for the ultimate failing company.  Although it is true that the art glass of many other companies in the USA had begun to out-source the production of
their wares to factories overseas and since their production was less costly, as was the cost of their ware produced overseas, their were many inconsistencies and problems with the production, which
is obvious when comparing wares made overseas to the beautiful Art Glass was made in the USA by Fenton.  However, many collectors and Fenton Dealers believe the management of the company,
and the primarily high end direction much of Fenton's wares were taking was hurting the company demographically.  Although at the time there seemed to be little hope for Fenton to meet its debts
and continue its business operations, through a massive restructuring of the Fenton Company, which included the introduction of Fenton International, and other changes, Fenton was able to stay in
business, and their Hen on Nest dishes & Roosters continued to be produced in the USA, until 2011, when Fenton ceased making their wares.  It should be noted that many members of Fenton Clubs
and eGroups are those who are responsible, at least in part, for keeping Fenton in business, whether they can afford to purchase every LE ware produced, or not. Their continued patronage to Fenton
despite all, has proven Fenton still has a remarkably loyal client base.

With the recent changes following Fenton's restructuring, and their decision to move  production of some Fenton wares out of the USA, came the apparent need for new logos and labels, as shown
below. Fortunately, to date all the hen on nest dishes and covered Rooster Boxes have continued to be made in the USA and are marked as such. (Although difficult to photograph, please refer above
to view the photo of the green embedded USA logo, on the Chameleon Green Hen Egg Plate, Ware # 5188 XE, that was special ordered by Rosso Glass, who also special ordered many other new
Fenton items in 2008 Chameleon Green.)
Fenton's Chick on Nest, ware # 5185, was released in 1953. Only 7 colors/glass
combinations were produced inline since the 1950s.  The colors of Fenton's Chick
On Nest dishes often coincided with the color of that year's Chicken Server
and/or #5183 Hen on Nest. Although infrequently produced, Fenton's Chick On
Nest has been produced as recently as 1999 in Dusty Rose, and was special
ordered by Martha Stewart's Martha by Mail to match the Hen Egg Plates she'd
also special ordered in Mint Green and Shell Pink.
As has been mentioned here several times, Fenton's Quality Control checks each
item thoroughly. If that item does not meet Fenton's strict requirements the
piece it is deemed a Second, and permanently marked that way. Items that were
to have been Limited Editions have all reference to that sandblasted off, which
is also done to logos that have already been applied.

Below are some common marks used to identify Fenton wares that are not of
First Quality. While some of these items make their way to eBay via purchases
from the Fenton Gift Shop's Bargain Bin, that in no way is meant to imply that
only Seconds are sold through the Gift Shop. Quite, to the contrary! Many
wonderful, and unique First Quality items can be found there!
Below, left to right are: Dancing Flame, Double Star (singles also used), and
Block F. The letter "F" scratched into the surface of a piece also identifies it as a
second.
This additional section about Fenton's hen on nest dishes is to help familiarize you with the
appearance of Fenton's various hen on nest "moulds," a term used by many art glass
enthusiasts to quickly and concisely describe the size and shape of brand name art glass
ware, such those manufactured by Fenton Art Glass. Providing as many large photos of
Fenton's hen on nest moulds as we can, and from various angles, with general information
about them located near their respective photos should help make learning to recognize
Fenton's hen on nest forms easier.
Please review the Sections for each of the forms shown below. There you will find large
photos, close-ups of mould details, measurements, and more about the interesting features
and characteristics of each mould shown here can be found in the separate Sections for each
of Fenton's hen on nest forms.
Fenton's markings for Second Quality Wares
Ware #5188 YZ, Hen Egg Plate released in 1997 as
a Limited Edition of 950 hand painted pieces done
in the English Daisy Pattern. Ware #5188 Hen Egg
Plate 1995--present day. (01.05.08)
Ware #5186 RX, 5" Fenton Ruby Marble (red
slag) Hen on Nest, special ordered by Levay in
1984. (HTF) Ware #5186 produced: 1968-still in
production. (01.04.08)
As previously mentioned, the term "pre-logo" is often seen when searching the web's Secondary Market Venues for nest and covered
chicken dish that has no Maker's Mark, or at least none found by its seller. Often these unmarked hens are listed as "pre-logo"
Fenton, although many companies did not mark their hens.  True pre-logo Fenton hen on nest dishes are not common, and are fairly
easy to spot once a Buyer knows that to look for. There are more Fenton hen on nest dishes in circulation which are marked, than
those that are not, due to lower numbers of unmarked hens having been made and breakage of those that were. Fenton began
embedding their logo, the complete word "Fenton" spelled out in an oval, in 1971 (see images and photos to right).  By 1972 the 8"
and 5" Fenton Hen on Nest dishes were being produced marked with Fenton's embedded logo, and there were no longer any Fenton
hen on nest dishes being made unmarked-or "pre-logo."  All of Fenton's inline roosters were put into production nearly 2 decades
after Fenton began embedding logos into their wares. Therefor are no "pre-logo" Fenton roosters, and those that are marked are not
marked with the logo, shown to the right, used for Fenton's hens.

Over the years Fenton's use of embedded markings evolved in ways that provided more than simple confirmation of an item's brand
name as Fenton's.  Because Fenton lays claim to all their Hen on Nest dishes/forms, Fenton marked them with the logo reserved for
marking items made from moulds which originated with Fenton. Those logos, and the roosters created by Fenton's designers, are
different from those used with their rooster boxes and large standing roosters-the moulds for all of which came from outside sources.
The new addition, shown below, to Fenton's roster of logos
thrilled fans of Fenton's art glass poultry when the new logo
used for Fenton Roosters and their Hen on Nest moulds made
after early 2008 are marked with Fenton's logo-and USA!
Important Tips to Review for Safe, Enjoyable
Online Collecting & Shopping
Ware #5185 GM, Chick on Nest, released in 1953.
Only 7 Fenton Chick on Nest color/glass
combinations have been produced inline or by
special order since the Chick On Nest debuted in
the 1950s. Colors of the chick and its nest often
coincided with the color of that year's Chicken
Servers and/or #5183 Hen on (smooth rim) Nest.
Ware #5182 MD, 8" HP Milk Glass Hen on inline Hand
Painted or decorated 8" Fenton hen on nest, excluding
the Hen Egg Plates) produced to date.  Ware #5182
produced: 1967-still in production. (01.04.08)
The above Fenton Roosters from the 2001 Folk Art Collection, were made of black glossy glass, before
being painted by Fenton's artisans in the handsome decorative design for that year's Folk Art Collection.
Unfortunately, their were no hen on nest dishes made in this color scheme.
It should be noted, the
interior of the rooster tops and bases are not painted and show the original color the glass was prior
to being painted. This can be especially helpful when a Rooster Box is listed as Burmese, when
instead its decorated in colors resembling Burmese, usually on white glass.
  • Collecting via Online
    Markets
  • A Time-line of Fenton
    (USA) Hen on Nest forms
  • Meet the Queens of the
    Fenton Curio Coop
  • Fenton Art Glass Labels &
    Logos
  • Secondary Market
  • Fenton's Embedded Logos
  • Embedded Decade
    Indicators
  • About Fenton's Ware
    Numbers
  • Other Permanent
    embedded & sandblasted
    marks used by Fenton
  • The Fenton Rulers of the
    Roost
  • Recommended Reading
  • BUYERS BEWARE!
An Introduction to Enjoying the Art of Online Fenton Hen & Rooster Collecting
~&~
Why Buyers should Beware!
Mrs. Shirley Smith, a renowned Glass Covered Hen on Nest expert,
author and keynote speaker, has identified over 250 glass hen on nest
forms now known to exist, produced by more than 100 companies.
 
Each, even those that are marked with their maker's name or logo, has
the possibility of being erroneously listed online as Fenton. That, in a
nutshell is an excellent reason for a collector to make some time to
learn what they can about what Fenton Art Glass hens and roosters
are-and what they are not!

Ebay can be a wonderful place to shop for Fenton-however, Buyers
must beware! An average of 20 to 35% of the hens listed on eBay as
Fenton are not Fenton. Many see the contradiction from the thumbnail
photo of those hen that's erroneously listed, although the creative use
of angles, and poor photography may entice one to venture further to
read the listing., especially when sho listed hen usually clearly
indicate-if the one looking knows what a brand name Fenton hen looks
like.

Learn as much as you can about Fenton, and the various hens and
roosters produced by Fenton.  As you learn to use your eyes, also use
your knowledge of Fenton to help you really see and observe the hen
you're looking at. Eventually you'll be able to quickly access a hen
with a practiced eye. Studying the features of each of Fenton's hen on
nest forms with an ordered, yet almost artistic approach.  Learning to
"see," observe and study the features of the Fenton hen on nest forms is
essential to enjoying a successful online collecting experience.
Welcome! This is an introduction to enjoying the art of online collecting
brand name Fenton Art Glass Hen on Nest dishes, wares from their
impressive roster of Rooster moulds, and the other beautiful art glass
poultry produced by Fenton. This site is for our fellow Fenton Hen and
Rooster enthusiasts, from novice to experienced, who enjoy buying and
selling Fenton's beautiful Art Glass poultry on eBay, or one of the many
other Secondary Marketplace Venues available on the Internet.
We hope
you enjoy your visit!

The convenience of shopping for brand name collectibles via a plethora of
expansive online Secondary Market Venues is not without problematic
issues of its own. This seemingly accepted trade of can and does affect the
collecting of brand name goods-including Fenton. Unresolved purchases of
items that were erroneously listed as a brand name are financially
draining to the collector, to say the least.  

Over the years Fenton's popularity as a highly collectible Art Glass
continued to increase as did sales on the Internet and on eBay, which
added a Category just for brand name Fenton Art Glass, with several
subcategories included.

With sustained popularity on the Secondary Market the term "Fenton,"
once a name synonymous with high quality North American Art Glass,
began to be used incorrectly by many uninformed online Sellers as a
generic term for any glass hen, chicken or rooster they elected to list on
eBay. BUYERS BEWARE!  

All Fenton roosters were put into production long after Fenton began marking
wares with their logos embedded into the glass, so there is no such thing as
"pre-logo" Fenton roosters.

Any Fenton rooster lacking a logo should be suspect as being defective, and not of
first quality. Unmarked "Fenton" roosters of all shapes and sizes should be studied
carefully before considering its purchase. Occasionally defects can appear to be
less obvious in photos, so if you have doubts about the item contact the Seller.
Learning as much as you can about the various hens and roosters produced by
Fenton and their shapes, sizes and features is essential to enjoying a successful
online collecting experience-especially when shopping on eBay.
We have seen Fenton hen on nest dishes and roosters listed for sale on eBay as "Rare,"  "Turn of the Century," "depression glass." "vintage
Estate find," and some even more creatively enticing titles. Since Fenton didn't use a time machine to go back to their beginnings in the
early 1900s, and since Depression Glass and the late 1990s to the early 21st century are not compatible, we've created a simple Timeline
of Fenton hen on nest forms to clarify which of the gals arrived when!

The Timeline below should clarify what hen on nest forms were introduced when and when/if the mould was retired. Photos of each
mould or ware included in the roster of Fenton's hen on nest dishes displayed below in the order they were introduced-from the debut
of the Chicken Server in 1952, to Fenton's return of the Chicken Server with the new name, Hen Egg Plate in 1995 are shown below with
information about what hens were made when, and whether they are still being produced.
Fenton's Rulers of the Roost
Fenton's Rulers of the Roost
www.fentonaddict.com
www.FentonHenAndRooster.com
Whether a novice to eBay and online shopping, or a longtime veteran, familiarize, or re-familiarize
yourself with some very important facts and rules relative to accurate online listings for Brand
Name items, such as Fenton.
This information is readily available for review on most online market
venues, including eBay, links to which are included below.

Reviewing and understanding the Terms of Service, especially with regard to the sale of brand name
goods is for your protection as a buyer-as well as for Sellers of brand name goods.
Reviewing this
information may be one of the easiest, least expensive ways with which to increase your brand
name collecting enjoyment-while also providing protection from eBay and PayPal, if that service is
used, should your purchase not turn out as expected, including not being the brand name it was
listed as.

The importance of taking the time to do this small bit of reading about the Terms of Service, or
TOS, for where you shop online cannot be over emphasized!
Each venue has specific rules Buyers
and Sellers must comply with in order for them to participate in that venue-whether buying or
selling. The rules that Sellers must also follow can also assist you, as a Buyer if a Fenton hen on
nest purchase arrives and makes you want to cry "Fowl" when she turns out not to be Fenton.  If
PayPal is used to pay for eBay and other purchases, be sure to check the details and requirements
of PayPal's Buyer Protection Program.  PayPal offers Buyers great assistance when purchases go
wrong, but their service is regulated by specific guidelines and time frames that must be followed
to the letter in order to be eligible for PayPal Buyer's Protection.

eBay's Buying and Selling Terms and Guidelines are easy to access. The following links will take you
to eBay' Terms of Service and Buying and Selling, Rules and Guidelines which provide a wealth of
information, especially about the listing by Sellers of Brand Names, including the brand name of
Fenton, that catches even some seasoned eBayers by surprise.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/compliant-listings.html
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-ov.html

For more information about the rules that govern the listing of brand name items, please click here:
More About The Sellers Responsibilities to Authenticate Brand Name Items Listed on eBay-Prior to
listing!
Per eBay's Selling Rules, ALL BRAND NAME ITEMS MUST BE VERIFIED & AUTHENTICATED AS THE
BRAND NAME THE ITEM IS LISTED AS
PRIOR TO IT BEING LISTED ON EbAY!

Sellers are ultimately responsible for the legality of any item they offer for sale on eBay and the
listing describing that item. If a Seller's item or listing violates eBay policy by not being the brand
name listed as, or by being listed in a brand name category when the item is not that brand
name, that Seller may be reported to eBay and the listing may be removed from eBay.
Additionally, the incorrect listing of an item by a brand name, such as Fenton, prior to its
authentication, may be cause for the Seller to take the item back and refund all funds paid, again
per eBay and PayPal rules.

The listing of non-Fenton wares can be especially problematic for those who may be new to
Fenton collecting, or eBay. During the weeks prior to Easter 2009, there was an average of 22
hens listed as Fenton in the Fenton Category on eBay. Actually, 6 to 10 of the hen on nest dishes
listed as Fenton clearly were not the Fenton brand. The Sellers of those items were notified
about their errors. Not so shockingly, many chose not to correct their listings, quoting
non-existent eBay rules as their reason for not being able to correct, revise, amend or add to
their listing(s).

Oddly, despite this rule, most eBay auctions seem to contain a form of a written bail out term
written into their listings with wording such as "All items sold as is" or a similar  attempt at
relieving the Seller of any liability for posting an incorrect listing because they failed to do their
homework-which eBay requires when selling items as a brand name!

Hopping mad or not about the above. What's described above are more
reasons for BUYERS to BEWARE!!
Learning the forms of Fenton's hen on
nest dishes, which colors were marked and knowing that all first quality
Fenton roosters should be marked with an embedded Fenton logo are
just a few tips that learning about what you collect can provide. Fenton
collecting can become more enjoyable-and in a sense, an art.

    Fenton assigns mould numbers to the pieces they produce including components, such as lids, stoppers,
    epergne horns, stands and bases used to complete multiple part wares, including covered Hen on Nest dishes
    and Rooster Boxes.  Fenton's 8" hen top, a copy of the 8" Atterbury Hen Top was developed in the early 1950s
    for use with Fenton's first Hen on Nest form-their huge Chicken Server #5188. Fenton's 8" Hen Top is still in
    production to this day in 2009, and is known as Hen Top mould # 5199. Each of the 3 bases used with Fenton
    Hen Top #5199 have mould numbers of their own.  To avoid confusion, for the most part we've used the 4 digit
    mould number for the completed wares throughout the site.  

    Fenton's complete 2 part Hen on Nest moulds each have their own 4 digit Mould number. The 4 digit mould
    number is incorporated into a Ware Number for the completed 2 part wares. For example, each Ware Number
    is specific to a particular hen or rooster mould (size and shape) and the specific type, color(s) &/or finishing
    treatment(s) of the glass used to manufacture the item, or ware.  The Ware Number generally consists of the
    4 digit mould number (for the complete hen on nest) and a suffix of 2 letters, or combination of a digit and
    letter, which represents Fenton's Color Code. The color code suffix which is added to the 4 digit mould
    number to create a Ware Number for a specific item, represents the specific color, treatment, and even the
    decorative designs painted on items. Knowing which color helps avoid the purchase of duplicates, which is
    easy to do since the same color hen doesn't always look the same from camera to camera, and PC display to
    PC display. There are ways of pinpointing the colors which we discuss in the section on colors.

    Fenton's contemporary mould numbers generally consist of a 4 digit number assigned to the completed item,
    regardless of the number of moulds required to complete the item, or an item's multiple components, or
    whether its a solid 5" cat, or a 5 piece Epergne.  

    Fenton's ware numbers have become somewhat interchangeable with mould numbers in some collecting
    circles, which is not far from true. A Fenton Ware Number is not actually complete without its suffix of a 2
    digit, or a combination of a letter and a number, code which represents the Fenton color of an item.
    Occasionally, ware numbers also have lettered prefixes, indicating they were made by Special Order for a
    company with plans to market the item themselves. QVC, Rosso, and Martha Stewart's special ordered Fenton
    hens and roosters are some examples of this type of ware number.

    Detailed information about mould and ware numbers is included below.
Fortunately for Fenton hen and rooster enthusiasts, the number of “pre-
logo,” or unmarked Fenton hen on nest dishes believed to still exist is
substantially less than those that are marked, and is relative to the
online Secondary Market and eBay, where a greater number of marked
authentic Fenton hen on nest dishes are known to exist and are more
frequently seen listed for sale than those that were made prior to the
early 1970s.
The term "pre-logo" is commonly seen when shopping for Fenton, on the
online Secondary Marketplace when the listing is for a glass item lacking
any permanent marking, such as a logo embedded or maker's mark
embedded into the glass which verifies the brand of the item.  Fenton
produced many items in the decades prior to the early 1970s, when they
began the practice of marking First Quality wares with permanent logos,
spelling out the word Fenton, embedded into the glass of items, such as
their hen on nest dishes.
There are those who believe that a Fenton sticker on a glass item alone verifies the authenticity of that item as Fenton's.
However, Buyers must beware! Sheets, strips and rolls of unused Fenton stick on labels have been listed and sold on eBay,
including the strip of unused Fenton stickers shown above which was easily found and bought for use on this site on eBay.
In some instances authentic Fenton hens or roosters may be advertised for sale but shown with an outdated Fenton label on
it, meaning the label was retired before that particular Fenton hen or Fenton rooster box was put into production. That is an
equally disturbing misuse of a Fenton label, although why anyone would choose to put an outdated sticker on an authentic
piece makes me wonder.  Seller's must use caution, since situations like the above could cause a Seller's integrity to be
questioned.
Fenton's various labels have their own stories, but these labels are not nearly as reliable as Fenton's embedded logos for
proving an item to be an authentic Fenton ware, since labels can be easily removed and applied to other items. Per our
own purchasing experience, more than a few non-Fenton hens and roosters have appeared on eBay sporting Fenton labels,
some of which were older than the item they were pictured on, which only serves to cast doubt about the seller's
integrity. Just as disturbing are the pages of unused Fenton labels that have been listed on eBay, and sold quickly. The scan
above is of a part of a roll of unused Fenton labels bought on eBay for use on this site-the very first day we searched for
them.
Stick on foil and paper labels are not considered reliable for confirming the
authenticity of an item as being brand name Fenton.  More than a few
obviously non-Fenton hens, roosters,  chickens and other wares have
appeared on eBay and other online Secondary Market venues sporting
Fenton labels that do not belong on them. Although frequently the item is
obviously not Fenton attempting to argue that point with the seller of a
glass hen with a Fenton sticker isn't easy. We've also seen other errors,
where hens are marked by another maker-yet the Fenton sticker is of a
priority to the seller since if an item has a Fenton sticker into the Fenton
category it goes-right or wrong.
The lack of a sticker should not affect the value of an authentic Fenton
piece in any great sense. Very dry weather, a gentle cleaning of an item
with a damp cloth, and apparently even a trip via USPS can cause stickers
to come loose, or even fall off.  We've purchased new Fenton items from
authorized Showcase Dealers, and Fenton direct and on more than one
occasion have had these new items arrive with their foil stickers found
hanging off, in the bottom of the box, and so on.  To us, the presence of a
sticker on an authentic Fenton piece does not affect its value. However,
this is a personal opinion, and in the world of collecting-to each his own!  
A brief bit about Moulds, Ware Numbers & Information provided by them
The end of over a century long run of success by Fenton!
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